...And This Is What We Need To Do About It - with Jolly Corley & Ruby Compton - CampHacker #152

Part 2 of our conversation about the big changes needed in the Camp World.

To listen to part 1: https://camphacker.tv/podcast/2021/10/future-of-camp-pt-1

Last episode, we gave a laundry list of what’s NOT going well in the industry.

Here, we shake off the doom and gloom start to unpack what it might look like to fix some of these changes that seem big and foreboding.

A big thanks to Ruby and Jolly for joining us for these two episodes! Make sure you check out all of the great things that they are up to: https://rubyoutdoors.com & https://gocamp.pro/jolly


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We Are S*it Scared About The Future of Summer Camp with Jolly Corley & Ruby Compton - CampHacker #151

Yes - S*it scared.

As Ruby points out in this episode, the CampHacker team doesn’t shy away from saying the hard things.

Episode 39 of the Podcast, recorded in 2012 talked all about why the camp industry was in peril.

Switch those last two numbers and fast-forward to 2021, and we’re STILL in many of those same perils.

Like many industries, the pandemic has further amplified the things about camp that need to change. The ideas of “lack of staff”, a homogeneous industry community, climate change and many more things seem to have come to a head all at once.

Look at the summer camp professionals group on Facebook, it was FULL of stories from pros, young and old, speaking about how this was their hardest summer yet.

In this episode, the brilliant Ruby Compton and Jolly Corley, join Travis, Chris and Joe to honour the hard things that we’re facing.

NEXT episode we’ll talk about how to move forward!


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Does the Camp Industry Need a Union? - with Alana Matteson - CampHacker #150

How might (or might not) a union help serve Camp Pros as they navigate an increasingly stressful profession?

At the end of August, a particularly thought-provoking post was made in the Summer Camp Professionals Facebook group.

After hearing about some of the horror stories of this, and past summers, a pro posted this:

“…Its become clear to me in the last few months that the people in charge of camps are often not the people that run summer camps and this can lead to some wild expectations including around hours, pay, vacation time, parental leave, etc. because the ACA hasn’t put these things in the standards, I’m wondering if having some sort of body to educate people on best practices around expectations for staff would be helpful.”

That pro, was Alana Matteson, and she is our guest this episode to kick off our
new season of both Camp Code and the CampHacker Podcast!

Alana joins Travis and Ruby for this discussion on not just Unions, but the type of advocacy that pros need in general to have more successful, fulfilling and sustainable careers.

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Why We Volunteer - with Matt Honsberger - CampHacker #149

Over 16 hours of volunteer podcasting this year. Why do we do it? How can we encourage the next generation of camp pros to give back to the industry…

There are SO many people that love and support the industry. From Podcast hosts, to speakers, to bloggers, to association volunteers, to contributors in the online communities, there are tens of thousands of volunteer hours poured into the industry every year.

This episode is dedicated to the spirit of volunteering at camp, and how we can encourage the next generation of camp professionals to step up and support the industry as it enters this chapter of recovery and change.

Chris, Joe and Travis are joined by Go Camp Pro’s Executive Producer, Matt Honsberger (who’s currently typing this blog!) to look back on this season of the CampHacker Podcast and share where the inspiration to give time comes from, and how to help others find it as well.

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How are you encouraging staff to volunteer? Let us know in the comments!



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